I’m not into pushing products here, but this one is really cool.
Drawing a big crowd during the 2013 SEMA Show was a new “Split-Window” style removable hardtop. It is designed to fit a midyear Corvette convertible and give it the distinctive appearance of the ’63 split-window coupe.
DRS Automotive FantomWorks of Norfolk, Va., created the new accessory that makes a midyear Corvette ragtop look amazingly like a split window coupe. Installing the custom roof or taking it off a car is just a tad more work than installing a standard factory hard top and the appearance is dramatic. Only a seam between the roof and deck lid tells you the car is a ragtop.
FantomWorks is actually a TV show on the Velocity network and the Split Window style hardtop was featured in one episode and went virile on many Corvette enthusiast Websites. Visitors to the SEMA Show were also all over the cool-looking lid. Speedville (www.speedville.com) had a hard job getting in close enough to shoot pictures and the fellows exhibiting the hardtop were so busy it was hard to find a moment to talk about the product.
DRS Automotive FantomWorks is housed in a very long, very old brick building that’s been spruced up inside and out and decorated with many antiques from jukeboxes to automobilia. You can contact them at 2400 Hampton Blvd | Norfolk, VA 23517. The phone number is 757.216.1745. You can also visit www.fantomworks.com.
We did not see the hardtop on the Website, but we’re sure they’d be happy to tell you about it if you’re interested. Here’s a link to a Corvette Website that has a video showing it being removed from a red Corvette resto-mod convertible. http://www.corvetteonline.com/videos/car-features/video-1963-corvette-convertible-gets-split-window-hard-top/
In the video, the car drives into the shop, the hardtop is removed by unlatching it from the windshield header and a removable rear deck emblem. A black protective cover or pad is seen under the hardtop. Apparently, it prevents scratching the paint on the deck lid when the hardtop is in place. The black cover is rolled up and stores behind the seat. The hardtop itself is stored on some type of stand or fixture. The topless convertible then drives off.
Corky Coker introduced the new line of tires at SEMA.
My alma mater Old Cars Weekly (www.oldcarsweekly.com) has a 40-plus-years track record of accurately predicting what’s going to happen in the old-car industry. Some of it comes from the staff’s own collector car knowledge and personal experiences driving and owning old cars. Years ago, when my son Jesse bought a ’62 Mercury Monterey the new tires we bought for it worked, but looked too small for the car. Old-car guru Kenny Buttolph told us, “They don’t make the original 7.50 x 14 tires now, so ‘60s cars like that just never have the same stance they had when they were new.”
Fast forward to October 2013. We were heading for SEMA and sent in an article called “SEMA Dreamin’” listing some new products we’d like to see in the SEMA Show’s popular “New Products Showcase.” The article appeared in Old Cars Weekly and before you know it an email from tire maker Corky Coker popped up on my computer. “Gunner, you old rascal, you must have been spying on us,” Coker wrote. “Come to our press conference at SEMA.”
As it turns out, Coker Tire Co., (www.coker.com) of Chattanooga, Tenn., was about to issue a new American Classic line of tires that would include tires that fit properly and looked authentic on a ’62 Mercury Monterey. However, the new tires had one more advantage for modern car collectors-a feature we didn’t predict in Old Cars Weekly. The American Classic products combine up-to-date full radial tire construction with the authentic-looking profile of a bias-ply tire.
This display shows the radial plies and true whitewall construction.
“Classic car enthusiasts have always had to choose between bias-ply and radial tires,” Corky Coker pointed out at the SEMA press conference. “The restoration guys prefer the authentic construction and appearance of bias-ply tires, while many folks would rather sacrifice the vehicle’s authenticity to have the ride quality of a modern radial. Previously, we have offered both styles of tires (bias-ply and radial-ply) in whitewall form, but now we offer a tire that blends the best of both worlds. It’s the new American Classic bias profile radial tire and it’s the first ever radial whitewall tire with an authentic bias-ply look.”
Although it might have seemed that Old Cars Weekly jumped the gun by putting in print what Coker was up to, new tires don’t get developed in a few weeks. Coker Tire Co. actually made a bias-look tire it calls the Excelsior Stahl Sport Radial a few years ago. It was geared toward prewar classics and hot rods.
“We wanted to fill the gap for customers who love cars from the late ’40s, ’50s and ’60s,” Corky Coker explained. “That’s where the new American Classic bias-ply profile radial comes into play. We have nine great sizes to fit many applications, with authentic wide whitewalls that are built into the tire mold.”
SEMA awarded the American Classic tires “Best New Product” honors in the Tires and Related category of the New Products Showcase. According to Coker, American Classic tires are available for pre-order and are expected to be in stock during first quarter of 2014. They will be marketed in the following sizes:
• 6.70R15 for classic ’55-56 Thunderbirds, Tri-five Chevys, early Corvettes and other contemporary cars
• 8.20R15 for classic Cadillacs, Lincolns, Buicks and big cars. (This size also works well for the rear of hot rods and street rods.)
• 7.50R14 for classic Chevy Impalas, ’57 Thunderbirds and many more models (including ’62 Mercurys, of course).
• 7.10R15 for many Buicks, Pontiacs, Dodges and Studebakers (such as my ’53 Pontiac Catalina).
• 8.00R15 for Cadillacs, Buicks, Packards and many other full-size classic cars.
• 7.60R15 for Buicks, Hudsons, Mercurys and Packards.
• 8.00R14 for many classic makes and models, such as Chevy Impalas, Ford Thunderbirds, Plymouths, Ramblers and others.
• 6.50R13 to fit Chevy Corvairs, Chevy IIs and Novas, Dodge Darts, Ford Falcons and many other compact cars from the early ’60s.
• 5.60R15 to fit classic Volkswagen Beetles, Porsches, MGs and Alfa Romeos. (This size also works well for the front of hot rods and street rods! This tire is currently in development, so it is not yet available for pre-order.)
“We’re excited about the American Classic bias profile radials because they come in sizes to fit almost any classic car, hot rod or custom from the ’40s-’60s,” Coker noted. “Pricing starts at $200 each and these tires are backed by our trusted Life of the Tread warranty (and eligible for our Extended Tire Protection program). They are DOT and ECE approved and made in the USA!”
Linda Vaughn and “Doc” Watson joined the Barrett-Jackson folks to introduce a new Linda Vaughn Edition Camaro.
The 2013 SEMA Show (www.sema.org) took place Nov. 5-8 at the Las Vegas Convention Center. How does SEMA fit the old car hobby? The show reflected trends towards vintage trucks, towards established companies looking at the old-car marketplace as an expansion niche and towards some hobby suppliers growing in this market segment, at the same time others seem to be pulling back.
SEMA is big. The casinos, cabbies and eateries were bracing for 75,000 visitors. Room bookings and traffic indicate their expectations were met. Exhibitors we spoke with reported having a “great show.”
The trend to trucks was very apparent and although many SEMA show vehicles are customized pickups, the rise in popularity carries over into “stock” type rigs. Also apparent was an expansion of truck enthusiasm into Step-Vans. Suburbans and early ‘60s forward-control vans. A Georgia outfit named OMIX-ADA. (www.omix-ada.com) rolled out a great display of military trucks and Jeeps on the South Hall mezzanine.
How about a hot rod Fed Ex truck or a “Hauler” award for hot rod builders presented by UPS? Seems like the two shippers—who probably deliver half of all vintage car parts sold in this country—are finally treating this business as a big part of theirs, Many hobby companies we’ve visited over the years credit their favorite shipper for their success and now FedEx and Brown seem to be picking up on the importance of these relationships by giving back to the hobby at large.
As far as established companies giving the old-car hobby like recognition, at SEMA 2012 we learned about Edlebrock’s (www.edelbrock.com) custom foundry program that will cast up parts for any car restorer willing to make it profitable. How about a Marmon 16 cylinder head? This year we had a meeting with Graham Fordyce, R & D Manger for Accel Performance Group (www.accelnation.com) who told us about their Mallory custom distributor program. He said that Mallory can now build distributors for 1,700 pre-1960s engines and is working on adding the muscle era applications to their offerings!
Other changes since our last SEMA included Classic Industries (www.classicindustries.com) and Bob Drake Reproductions (www.bobdrake.com) having bigger booths, more products and more exciting show cars than ever before. Eastwood (www.eastwood.com) drew an amazingly big crowd all week to metal fabrication seminars conduced by Ron Covell. Eastwood’s Steve Hurter said he expected the popularity of the hands-on demonstrations to translate into brand exposure and increased product sales.
In summary, SEMA 2013 was a huge event with some very apparent changes. As a barometer for the old-car marketplace, the show suggested that car collecting is drawing wider recognition as an important business sector. As newer vehicles require fewer repairs, the specialty car sector is being looked at by more SEMA attendees and exhibitors as a place to grow new business.
Need some obsolete car engine parts? I ran into D.K. Kenmonth at the SEMA Show last week. He had dozens of old auto parts at his stand. D.K.’s grandfather Alton “Kenny” Kenmonth started in the engine parts business in 1933.
Kenny was a wagon jobber in the Los Angeles area selling Vitaloy pistons and Pacific piston rings out of the back of his car to the garage/engine rebuilding industry. He would pick up the piston/rod assemblies, take them to his garage for cleaning and rebushing, cut the ring grooves for G.I. spacers and return the ready-to-install assemblies. Back then repairs were done with the engine in the chassis.
The Kenmonth family spent many years in the engine parts business and related trades. “Manufacturers would discontinue an item and I just kept them, rather than throwing them away,” D.K. told me. The parts were moved off the front line to an obsolete line code and were there when occassional requests came in.
D.K. sold off some parts of the company in 2012, but the new owner didn’t purchase the corporate name Dana Motors (www.danamotorssac.com) or the machine shop. D.K. still has those and does business as Kenmonth Engine Co. and California Obsolete Engine Parts (CAOEP).
D.K. also found another niche based on California being ground zero for Japanese import cars in the ‘70s. “I couldn’t find anybody in the country that did NOS Japanese import parts—Datsun, Toyota, Mitsubishi, etc.,” said D.K. “So I started buying lots of NOS import parts and, with the help of our computer we put together build lists. We were able to find them and catalog them. We have designed and built a Website to present them to the industry.”
D.K. says he has 165,000 obsolete part numbers in his computer including engine parts for antique cars and vintage Japanese models. California Obsolete Engine Parts has valves reaching back to the Teens. “I don’t even have catalogs on some of the stuff,” D.K. admitted. “About the earliest catalog I have is a 1939 Federal-Mogul book that goes back to around 1928 or so. Some of it is knowing what you’re looking at. There are times when I have to open a box, take the part out and try to figure out what it is by the specs, because there’s no catalog.”
“We designed a shopping cart Website that has 21st Century search engine technology,” D.K. told me. “You can type in ‘1955 331 Cadillac valves’ and the search engine in today’s Internet will find those valves on my site because of the ways we organized our parts.”
California Obsolete Engine Parts hasn’t advertised in restoration hobby magazines. “I was best known as a West Coast distributor—as D.K. or Motor Warehouse,” said Kenmonth. “The NOS/NORS end of it is very recent. Over the years, we would get calls for obsolete parts and I discovered that there was a big need for this service. So, I thought that this could complement what we were doing and position us in a not so crowded area of the engine parts industry.”
The collection of magazines I bought recently has most 1950 issues of Hot Rod like this April issue. With luck I’ll also have the August issue with Eddie Miller’s flathead Pontiac belly tank car on its cover.
Well, I’m finally getting caught up after a great — and very productive — trip to the SEMA Show in Vegas.
Yesterday my friend Larry Fechter sent me an email that BLEW-ME-AWAY. Attached to his message was a link to a You Tube video about a show that Hot Rod Magazine put together this year. At this event the magazine brought together over 300 cars that had formerly been on the cover of Hot Rod.
The cars ranged from Stuart Hilborn’s lakester that appeared in the first issue of Hot Rod up to some of the latest cover cars. Hilborn was famous for his early fuel-injection work. Hilborn designed and built the first constant flow mechanical fuel injector. In 1948, at El Mirage dry lake, his car was the first ever to go 150 mph and the rest, as they say, is history.
The video also shows Eddie Miller’s Pontiac flathead six powered Bonneville streamliner. Being a flathead Pontiac fan, many years ago I had run across a drawing of this car in an issue of Hot Rod. I copied the page and cut out the picture and it hung at my desk for many years. Then, I lost track of it and could not ever find it again. Now, I know from the video that the car is in the August 1950 issue of Hot Rod, which I probably have in the magazine collection I bought recently. So, now so I can re-copy the picture I treasured so much for all those years.
But — even better — I discovered that the car still exists! It is right there on the video! I found out that it belongs to the “Ferguson family” and that Miller’s son Jim is still alive. With luck, I’ll be able to track it down and get some good photos of it to hang in my office.
Here is a link to this great video. Please check it out. It’s way cool.
Thought you might like an adavanced look at a new Website I am writing for. It is called Speedville. It is put together by the publishers of ENGINE BUILDER magazine. You can visit Speedville by going to www.speedville.com. Check it out!
When’s the last time you saw a hot rod Oldsmobile? (Photos by John Gunnell)
This is no joke. A man walks into a bar after seeing some hot rods parked outside. He spots the car guys and asks if anyone is interested in a ’36 Ford roadster with an old Firepower Chrysler hemi.
One of the hot rodders says yes and after a little hard negotiating, he buys the car and the engine. His purchase spreads out among other car guys in the county, then the state and finally across country. The reason: you just don’t find many old Fords today.
Ford was the brand that started hot rodding, but unless you’re into fiberglass reproductions, “real steel” Ford hot rods are unobtanium these days. It’s very hard to come up with Ford “iron” for a hot rod or custom car project. Vintage Fords are not as common as they used to be and prices are climbing.
For convenience — or to keep things affordable — some car builders are finding new types of vehicles to base their projects on. Others are switching from Ford to “brand X,” just for the pure joy of being different. The Ford street rod with 350 Chevy V-8 combination is starting to get just a little passe. That’s not to say that traditional rods aren’t pieces of art, but artists always look for new trends.
At recent shows and swap meets we’ve noticed some real diversity in brand loyalty. Plymouths seem to be coming on strong. This may be part of the growing popularity of Mopar products, or it may be simply because Plymouths are abundant and cheap. One hobbyist in our area built a 1953 station wagon that was widened and had its original top sawed off and replaced by a removable hardtop. So it’s a convertible, as well as a wagon. At the Hawkeye Downs swap meet in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, we caught sight of another unusual Plymouth that crawled up to the gate as the vendors were packing up. It appeared to be a ’49 coupe with quite a bit of re-paneling. The top was chopped and it was finished in gray primer. We’re not sure if the owner wanted the budget-build look or whether a re-squirt was in the car’s future.
A ’53 Pontiac made into a custom convertible was a hit at the 2013 Symco Shakesdown.
How about something really different: a 1938 Opal that’s tubbed, painted shocking pink and stuffed with a big, chrome-dripping V-8. At first glance, the Teutonic two-door looked like “who shrunk my Chevy,” which makes sense since Opal was GM’s branch “auf Deutschland.” A closer look revealed a nicely-crafted car of a marque you don’t see very often in its 1930s vintages.
If rodders and customizers are switching marques, they are also carving out new trends in vehicle types. The primo rods used to be the coupes, roadsters and T-buckets. Then, two-door (“Tudor” to Ford guys) sedans gained a following. Now, car builders are hot rodding both prewar and postwar station wagons, sedan delivery trucks and airport-style eight-door coaches. We recently met a rodder who built a monster truck, hovercraft and six-door limo out of wrecked DeLoreans. He’s heading for the future — not back to the future!
How about a custom DeLorean?
The owner of this ’64 Olds Cutless wants it SOLD!
That means he’s ready to take offers below the appraised value of $12,500. Not to mention that he has more than twice that amount in the purchase and restoration of the vehicle (and receipts tro prove it.) He lives near Gunner’s Great Garage and asked us to tell people he wants the car SOLD!
This car is a 1964 Oldsmobile F-85 Cutlass Holiday Coupe. The car’s odometer does not work so the miles it has been driven front new cannot be determined. The car has been restored, The car is Red paint and has a Black interior.
Clean black bucket seat and center console interior with automatic shifter and new upholstery on the front seats.
CAR INSPECTION NOTES
☻High quality repaint in bright red ☻Jetaway automatic transmission
☻330-cid V-8 engine (unknown if original) ☻Transmission fully rebuilt in 2000
☻Engine was removed and painted ☻Trunk clean
☻Body work high Number 3 condition ☻All glass in good condition
☻Upholstery & trim new condition ☻Optional center console with shifter
☻New and correct-looking carpets ☻Tachometer on center console
☻Biggest Sears battery (new 05/28/01) ☻Front bucket seats reupholstered
☻Cooper Classic whitewall tires ☻Styled wheel rims (aftermarket)
☻Tires in excellent condition ☻Power steering
☻Power brakes ☻90% number 2 chrome trim
☻Historical & milestone model ☻Retro radio from The Paddock
☻Front Bucket Seats ☻1965 Olds radio in trunk
☻Good dual exhaust system ☻Complete set of factory shop manuals
☻3-Year body off frame restoration ☻Nicely detailed chassis & suspension
☻Good panel fit and hood/door/trunk fits ☻Very good condition radiator grille
☻All safety & convenience features intact ☻ Good spare tire
☻Starts and runs well ☻ Radiator re-cored in 2001
☻Correct new ash trays and mirror ☻ Extensive paperwork & many books
☻VIN is proper and correct ☻ New headliner
☻New interior door panels ☻ New steering knuckle from rare Parts
☻New windshield washer jar ☻ Plenty of power – sounds good
☻Driven 1,000 miles in last 15 years ☻ Overall look is “show condition” car
☻Driver’s side frame was fully repaired ☻ New flo0r panels nicely installed
☻New rear fender metal welded in ☻ No rust in trunk; trunk floor is solid
Engine was painted Oldsmobile gold while out of the car. It is a 330-cid V-8 with lots of get up and go. The automatic transmission was completely rebuilt in 2000.
☻Missing nameplates (uninstalled in trunk) ☻Aftermarket wood steering wheel
☻Gear shift T handle is broken ☻ A/C parts with car but not installed
☻Firewall needs more detailing ☻Dashboard needs more detailing
☻Trunk cardboard needs replaced ☻Spare tire should have cover
☻Aftermarket gauges in console to be replaced ☻ Good spare tire
☻Minor new flaw on L.H. taillight trim ☻ Outside mirrors non-OEM, but nice
|1964 CUTLASS REPORTED AUCTION PRICES
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This vehicle has an overall “show car” look to it. The paint is very nice and the sheet metal repairs seem to be done to a high quality level. There is no sign of rust underneath and the repair work appears to be done well. The underside is painted black and there is no rust apparent in the rocker panels, door sills,, floor panels, trunk floor or wheel wells. Panel fit everywhere is good. There is an obvious lack of Oldsmobile / Cutlass nameplates, which are in the trunk.
How’s this for a nice rear end? The owner fell in love with the car because it reminded him of a 4-4-2 he had years ago. Now he’s into tractors so the car is going to go.
The engine, inner fenders, firewall and other under-hood parts are all clean and painted. There is some minor surface rust showing around the radiator bracketing parts. The chrome air cleaner and red spark plug wires do not appear to be original. Hose clamps and corrugated cooling hoses are of the modern type. The drive belts are modern replacements for the most part. I thought to black paint on the firewall was too shiny. The overall engine compartment detailing is nice, but not of show quality. The Die Hard battery is not original.
The interior has new seat covers, new door panels and a new headliner. The dashboard has been refinished, but does not have an overall show quality look. New carpets have been installed. The steering wheel has a thick wood rim and would seem to be of too small a diameter to be a factory option.
Interested in a very unique, super cool Volkswagen Double Cab Pickup? This is a customized restored truck that was formerly a trailer queen and best of show trophy winner. This rare truck has been featured in Dune Buggies and VWs magazine.
It’s a upgraded, safari-windowed 1963 VW Double Cab truck with a new 1700-cc, 100-hp power plant and new looks inside and out. It has been transformed from a seldom seen or driven show truck into a weekend beach cruiser, a cool street runner and an eye-catching ride. Its features include:
I• The superior condition of the power train (1500 miles)
• The superior condition of the exterior and underside (RUST FREE)
• The excellent condition of the custom interior.
• Genuine VW case (new)
• Counterweighted, forged 69mm crankshaft
• 8 dowelled flywheel w/chromoly gland nut
• Forged 90.5 Mahle pistons
• Engle 110 camshaft w/aluminum gear
• Surfaced genuine VW lifters
• Full flow oil system w/high volume pump
• 1-1/2 quart deep sump and external oil filter
• Berg Type 4 oil cooler conversion
• Mesa external cooler w/electric fan, braided Teflon-lined hoses
• Autocraft solid rocker shafts w/1.25 VW rocker arms
• Fully ported, polished cylinder heads
• Manley race series stainless valves
• 043 castings w/long reach plugs, hi-rev springs
• Venturi ring welded into air inlet side
• Full dynamic race balance
• Deliorto DRLA 36 carbs with match ported intake manifolds
• MSD ignition box, Bosch blue coil
• Bosch alternator (new)
• Bosch 009 distributor w/electronic ignition
• Bosch starter (new)
The new freeway flyer gearbox, also by Kelly Huffman, has the following features:
• 4.12 ring and pinion in completely rebuilt transaxle
• Gene Berg shifter
• Kennedy 1700 lb. pressure plate
You will ride in style with this great Double Cab’s lowered suspension – straight axle conversion for modern freeway speeds. KYB shocks in the rear, dropped spindles in front. Alignment and steering are excellent. – it goes down the road straight with a good grip on its LaCarrera steering wheel. Nanking N-803 P135/R15 front radial tires, P165/R15 Guardsman radials in the rear. Fuchs replica wheel rims. New Interstate battery.
Exhaust system is 1-1/2 inch merged Kymko exhaust w/heater boxes, all ceramic coated.
All heater and vent controls in good condition.
Inside the cab you’ll find a matched set of custom seat covers, door panels and interior headliner panels, no rips or tears anywhere. Custom interior carpeting in front cab and crew cab, with matching carpeted custom floor mats in front cab. Genuine VW door pulls. Four seat belts altogether – two in front cab and two in crew cab.
All exterior and interior lighting including dash lights and gauges operate properly. Original Sapphire 1 AM radio is included.
All window glass, including front Wolfgang Safaris and original Securit A52 door window glass and Durvit-A D-19 pop-out window glass are fully operational and free of chips or cracks. All vent locks and felt channels are in good order. Genuine VW spoon pop-out latches. New Hella front turn signal lenses. Safari windows are complete with wiper pivots and one-eyed duck.
All doors, including engine door, open and close properly. All door and window rubber seals are in good condition.
The rare Double Cab has fresh paint, fresh bumpers, a PPG coated bedliner. It is Snow White over Forest Green. Masterworks of Ennis, Texas, accomplished the paint and bedliner work.
The truck bed and gates are very straight, are in exceptional condition, and feature stainless steel hardware. Drop gates open and close properly. Rear deckled support is stainless steel. The reproduction VW truck bed slats were stained and secured with countersunk, stainless steel screws.
It has a reproduction Westphalia roof rack.
This is an excellent custom restoration and an rare truck that with proper care will grow in value. These early Double Cabs are getting harder and harder to find and are seldom available in this condition. Whether you are a beach freak, surfer or VW enthusiast who has been waiting for a great vintage truck to drive to head down to the ocean, run around town and be seen in, or to head out on the highway and stretch out, wait no longer. This one will do the trick without any hesitation.
The 1940 Indian Chief is going to be a “cover girl.”
Does this warm fall qualify as an “Indian Summer?” It must, because I just heard that Buzz Walneck is going to put my “old school” 1940 Indian Chief on the cover of his new magazine for antique motorcycle collectors. It’s called The Buzzzzz (Five Z’s) Rag . I wonder where he came up with that name?
Her’s info about the magazine
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Me and my red (interior) Corvette. (I wish!)